Although there very well may be, we have never looked into it in depth as most secured party’s/sovereigns do not use Attorney’s/Lawyers as it is seen as a waiver of rights and admittance of incompetence.
| If you allow anyone to “represent you”, instead of being “the belligerent claimant in person” (Hale v Henkel, i.s.c.), you become a “ward of the court”. Why? Because obviously, if someone else has to defend your rights for you, you must be incompetent! Clients are called “wards” of the court in regard to their relationship with their attorneys. See a copy of “Regarding Lawyer Discipline & Other Rules”, as well as Canons 1 through 9. |
| Also, see Corpus Juris Secundum (CJS), Volume 7, Section 4, Attorney & client: “The attorney’s first duty is to the courts and the public, not to the client and wherever the duties to his client conflict with those he owes as an officer of the court in the administration of justice, the former must yield to the latter.” (emphasis mine) |
| “A lawyer cannot claim that you have rights.” U.S. v. Johnson, 76 F. Supp. 538 |
The American Bar Association does not even recommend the use of a lawyer except in dangerously precarious situations as they state in their Q&A
Q. If I do not use a lawyer, who else can help me?
A. Unless your problem is so serious that only a lawyer can resolve it, you should first consider another source of help.
This is why in most if not almost all cases a SPC or Sovereign chooses to learn the necessities for themselves.Furthermore,uunderstand that attorneys cannot represent the ‘flesh and blood private man’ in their private commercial so-called courts. They can only represent the Debtor/Defendants in its or their corporate capacity! It’s like mixing oil and water!